Clark McClelland - The Man Who Saw Too Much
Close Encounters of the NASA Kind (Updated 2/10/2019)
On 5 occasions in my life I met highly placed officials in NASA or elsewhere in Government who were in a position to know about alleged contact between aliens and our Government. Two (both relatives) are now deceased. Of the three still alive, one is an always mysterious friend that I first extensively interviewed for two days in August 2007 (retired U.S. Navy Commander C.B. Scott Jones, former aid to Senator Claiborne Pell). He is sometimes accused of being at the core of a UFO cover-up, even though he is actively involved in helping to prepare the public for a revelation that aliens are here. Another man is Clark McClelland, who is at the center of controversial firestorm since at least 1999. I discussed Clark and UFOs at the end an an hour radio interview here. I heard from Clark again on January 24, 2017. He has added a few chapters to his book, but he had his leg amputated last July, and is now (at the age of 82) truly impoverished. He no longer has a working computer and without one he will won't be able to finish his book. If you want to help him out, see his WEBSITE. You can buy his book at http://stargate-chronicles.com/shop/. You an also donate via PayPal at firstname.lastname@example.org to help his recovery.
Torah Code (Wrapped Text) Matrix: Clark McClelland at skip 22,339 is directly crossed by alien (foreign) gods (open text). NASA at skip +4 overlaps Alien gods. Clark McClelland is at the same absolute skip as UFO.
THE CLARK MCCLELLAND SAGA
Clark McClelland was assigned to the cockpit of the Space Shuttle missions as a Spacecraft Operator (ScO - Ground Test Astronaut). He had a top secret clearance at the Kennedy Space Center, and allegedly witnessed several UFO-related events. His position has been confirmed by astronaut Edgar Mitchell, the 6th man to walk on the moon. In 1992 Clark lost his job (and retirement) after 34 years of service there some three months after claiming to see (on a 27-inch TV monitor) an 8 to 9-foot tall alien in the cargo bay one of our space shuttles. He also claimed to see an alien craft behind the shuttle. I first interviewed him on December 7, 2008, and I have maintained frequent e-mail contact with him since. He believes that our true technological abilities are about 50 years further along than the general public knows. It should be noted that the craft shown behind the shuttle seems to resemble a modified B-2 stealth bomber, and thus may represent advanced human rather than alien technology (see the comparative pictures below) and my page about the Onion Drive).
Clark states that his focus was more on the tall figure than on the visiting craft, however the visiting craft bares a great resemblance to a B-2 bomber. Nick Cook (who served as Aviation Editor of Jane's Defense Weekly) , in his book, THE HUNT FOR ZERO POINT, mentions on page 128 that Bill Scott, an Aviation Week editor, had been contacted by engineers who blew the whistle on such a program. Two of them complained that their civil rights had been abused. That is, to this day, Clark McClelland's chief complaint.
If we are to believe Nick Cook, propulsion systems involving antigravity may also involve distortions in the Space-Time continuum. Cook often implies that this concern lay at the core of disinformation and such civil rights violations. He goes so far on pages 228-229 and 267 as to assert that Germans and others since then have been trying to build a time machine. I have heard such claims from other noteworthy sources, and will explore them within the bounds of open literature and my own speculation at Gravitics and Time Travel, Antigravity, and, in conjunction with the prophet Ezekiel's vision, at Time Machine. From a religious perspective, time travel poses much greater problems than UFOs, aliens, or antigravity for the simple reason that it opens up the potential for manipulation of sacred scriptures.
As for the size contrast between the two small astronauts, and tall "ET" as drawn, it is close to the size contrast that would be visible if small women astronauts (minimum height requirement is 4’10.5”) were to stand next to the tallest Basketball stars (up to 7’11.5”). Of course, the B-2 is (at least partially, if not fully) an air-breathing jet, not a rocket, and the normal height limit on an astronaut is 6'4". Clark's response to this is that perhaps the big fellow seen is really one of the Nephilim or Anakim, that is, the giants mentioned in the Torah (Genesis 6:4, Numbers 13:33) and later with the story of Goliath. Perhaps they became a space-faring race, and then returned to Earth. Whoever he was, NASA (Never A Straight Answer?) obviously did not want the public to know about him or his ship.
McClelland believes that some of more Nikola Tesla's exotic ideas are at the basis of some of our secret technological developments. Clark's web site posts his credentials and claims. For more about aliens and the Torah Code, see No Alien gods! Edgar Mitchell's radio show on this topic is here. The specific reference by Mitchell to Clark working at the Kennedy Space Center is at 29 minutes 27 seconds into the second, hour-long interview.
In trying to figure out exactly what Clark saw, as Nick did in preparing his book, I have found it necessary to both interview people in critical positions, and at times to refrain from revealing their identity because of potential harm to them, their relatives, or to my own family. Even when these people think they know what is really going on, I have found areas in their testimony that suggest they might have been misled, or in some cases, are part of a disinformation effort themselves. But the key to what they all have indicated lies somewhere in the artist's sketch at the bottom of this page (on the left). This issue is not just what Clark saw in 1992; but the physics that powers it, and (if antigravity) the applications of related technologies.
EARLIER NOTES AND UPDATES ABOUT CLARK SINCE 2009:
MAY 13, 2009 UPDATE: I met with Clark again on May 11, 2009, just across from the Kennedy Space Center (KSC) where we watched the liftoff of the STS-125/Atlantis on a mission to rescue the Hubble Space Telescope. Clark is plagued by denial of a pension after 32 years of service at KSC and Cape Canaveral. While at the launch, I met other NASA old timers at the Space Walk of Fame Museum who confirmed Clark's credentials. In fact, the Museum's web site lists Clark as a participant in the Mercury program (with Kaiser Steel), Gemini program (with the Martin Company, and Apollo program (with the Boeing Company). Clark is adamant about this, stating that he, "was assigned to all those programs by ONI (Office of Naval Intelligence)!!" I urge those who served with him and all others to write their congressmen to request further investigation into the issue of his retirement. I also urge my readers to visit Clark's web site to contribute to his support. This is not because I'm certain Clark has seen aliens (see discussion above about the B-2 or other alleged anti-gravity technology). Rather, it's because I'm horrified that a patriotic American can be treated as he has been. If the Government felt that he had violated a security oath by talking about what he had accidently seen on the job, he should have been dealt with through due process of law. Instead, he was made the Poster Boy for those with loose lips, shown the door, a lifetime of poverty, and made into a non-person. Despite his appalling treatment, Clark remains a true American and dedicated NASA fan, who even though in great agony, manages to attend each and every Space Shuttle mission. He has worked on or been at 657 rocket launches.
AUGUST 31, 2009 UPDATE: I am, despite many attempts to arrive at a clearer picture, still baffled by exactly what precipitated Clark's dismissal from NASA. I thought that it was caused by the release his drawing, but I learned last month that the release did not occur until about a year ago, long after his 1992 dismissal. There seems to be an indication that he went out of his way to see what was not permitted. The bottom line on Clark's explanation of his dismissal seems to be more related to what he saw (either at the Kennedy Space Center, or elsewhere) than to what he said or disclosed back in 1992. As I told him, this does line up well with the Shut up or we'll go after you policy that we normally expect in such situations. If anything, punishing someone for what they saw would seem to be a way to ensure that they will eventually spill the beans in an effort to exert revenge for the injustice. Clark participated in the 40th Anniversary of Apollo 17 festivities at KSC this week. He had a hard time meeting with Edgar Mitchell, possibly because Mitchell is now nervous about what Clark has revealed, but he was able to meet with Buzz Aldrin. Soon after this meeting, BUZZ CLAIMED THAT THERE IS A MONOLITH ON MARS! See the link on UFO Disclosure below. There is also a discussion at Alien Giants about whether or not NASA might have deliberately deceived Clark as part of a security test by planting a fake video in the control room. However, at times Clark has mentioned a craft known as the TR-3B. I am not sure if his mentioning it is related to personal knowledge, or merely because there is so much about it out in the internet. The craft might explain what he saw behind the Space Shuttle in 1992, although his artist's rendition does not include the vertical stabilizer-like projections above the triangle wing seen in one video shot of it. The video was taken down but some still shots from that video are posted on my site with initial analysis. Note that publication of this video did not mean that I endorse its authenticity, but it did seem to at least represent what a lot of people have reported seeing. There are, however, problems, that are potentially significant that I discuss in conjunction with Figures 1B and 1C. Based on those considerations, and the issue of fins that are not shown on Clark's picture, I don't think that the TR-3B and Clark's craft are identical, though similar technology may be at work if the video is not a piece of disinformation put out by our Government.
OCTOBER 12, 2009 UPDATE: CLARK AS AN ASTRONOMER.
As is discussed in greater detail on my son's web site under Martian Dust Devil Gedanken Experiment, Martian surface winds can gust to about 50 miles (80 km) per hour and, during dust storms can blow at over 300 miles (480 km) per hour. However how much force such winds can produce is directly related to the atmospheric pressure. My son shows that the pressure is likely one to two magnitudes higher than NASA asserts. Dust storms can envelope the entire planet on Mars.
What could power winds up to 300 miles per hour? While not included on a site run by NASA which mentions that a typical (1 million square kilometer) dust storm moves at 33 to 66 miles per hour; perhaps the 300 mile per hour storms are driven by an asteroid impact. Here a critical piece of evidence is supplied by Clark McClelland who witnessed a flash on Mars, via the 13 inch Fitz-Clark refractor telescope at the Allegheny Observatory back in 1954. He also sent us an article about Tsuneo Saheki of the Osaka Planetarium who was viewing a 5.3 inch disc of Mars through an 8 inch Newtonian telescope at 400 power (this article mentions Clark's observation too). Saheki too claimed to see a a very small, extremely bright spot appear at 2100 Universal time on December 8, 1951.
While Clark thought he was witnessing a volcanic eruption in 1954, such an event would probably not be bright enough to see through a telescope, but an impact would be - if the impact were on the side of Mars facing the Earth. If it were on the side facing away from Earth, then the incident would appear unexplained unless we had an orbiter at the right time and place. There is an alternate theory out there based on observations by Thomas A. Dobbins that what Clark and others (Saheki on July 1, 1954; Ichiro Tasaka on November 21, 1958; and Dobbins on June 7 and 8, 2001) have seen at Edom Promontorium was a reflection off ice, but it does not offer us an explanation of what causes winds up to 300 mph. Clark argues for a volcanic eruption and against an asteroid impact because asteroids are not likely to hit the same spot repeatedly, but other areas have had similar flares too (Tithonius Lacas in 1951 and 1958, northeast of Solis Lacus in 1958, Northern Hellas in 1958; and the same times as for Edom Promontorium even though the two areas are not close). The dual flares at 13:35 and 13:50 Universal Time on November 21, 1958 at both Edom Promontorium and Northern Hellsas constitute the best evidence for an asteroid impact.
There was in Japan some speculation about a nuclear explosion or test on Mars as the U.S. had set off its biggest hydrogen bomb ever, a 15 megaton Bravo shot in the Castle series back in 1954. However, there is no public knowledge of an American (or Russian) rocket that could carry such a warhead at that time (unless we were using a reconstructed version of what supposedly crashed near Roswell in 1947). The world's first ICBM, the Russian R-7, did not fly until August 1957. The largest bomb anyone ever tested on Earth was the Tsar Bomba. That Russian blast on October 30, 1961, was equal to 58 megatons. It sent out a shock wave that circled the Earth 3 times. To see a Torah Codes matrix on this test, click H BOMB TEST.
The research done by my son and I, combined with observations by Clark, McClelland, Tsuneo Saheki, and others suggest that Mars is a very different world than is generally understood. Given the nature of the craft that Clark witnessed behind the Space Shuttle in orbit, and the pressure readings on Mars that are way too low to account for the abundant number of dust devils there (beginning at altitudes up to as high as 17 kilometers, where air pressure is only supposed to be one millibar) we have good reason to believe stories about a secret space program that already has Americans (and perhaps others) on Mars. If so, we know why this Governments drags its feet so much about a public effort to land on the Red Planet. It simply is not yet ready to face the theological and political consequences of how the public will react to such a massive, prolonged, and questionably funded disinformation program.
DO NOT MISS the new evidence presented in our report, entitled MARS CORRECT: CRITIQUE OF ALL NASA MARS WEATHER DATA which calls into question traditional understanding of (low) Martian atmospheric pressure. Earlier versionns of this report prompted two invitations to present our findings before the Mars Society Convention in the summer of 2010 (again in 2011). We have uncovered serious errors in equipment design and data interpretation for U.S. missions to Mars. The implications of higher than advertised pressure on Mars would be profound. My son mentions Clark on his web site in conjunction with Martian flares.
APRIL 19, 2010 and NOVEMBER 29, 2012 UPDATE
Recently Clark allowed me to view and assist in editing a chapter for a book that he’d like to publish. I will not steal his thunder, and hope that he succeeds in finding a publisher soon. The reader is advised to follow Clark’s web site for a possible on-line sample of the chapter. All that I will say about it here is that, if true, UFOs were seen by lunar astronauts Buzz Aldrin, Edgar Mitchell and James Irwin. The chapter details conversations that Clark held with Irwin who is no longer alive. Clark does a lot of speculation about the nature and/or purpose of the UFOs seen there. I have urged him to reduce the conjecture, and to largely stick with the facts, allowing his readers to draw whatever conclusions they deem appropriate. If Clark puts up an article about the revelation revealed, I will provide a link to it here, however he is concerned about the effects of releasing the information in question. As of November 29, 2012 he has 13 chapters up on his website. Once again, Clark's web site is The Stargate Chronicles.
CAVEAT OF DECEMBER 2, 2012: By November 29, 2012 it was apparent that Clark was having more than mere physical problems. On a Rense.Com radio show he announced that "Z" was stopping the publication of his book. By "Z" he meant Zionists. The Rense.Com radio show often features anti-Semitic material. Clark says he's not anti-Semitic, rather he's just anti-Zionist. Clark was often confused on the show, especially about the Kecksburg UFO which went from being a UFO, to a craft that might be manned, to a Soviet probe to Venus that crashed in Pennsylvania. I cannot say that what he witnessed earlier was made up, but the stress of trying to survive on Social Security alone for so many years has apparently greatly affected his ability to think clearly.
This was not the first time that I've heard ideas from Clark that sympathized with Nazi concepts. When I helped edit some of the early chapters of his book I was a bit shocked to read that he greeted former Nazi war criminals who worked at the Kennedy Space Center by clicking his heels which was a form of Nazi salute. The most famous of these men was, of course, Wernher von Braun, who designed our Saturn 5 moon rocket.
On numerous occasions I tried to explain the fact that Zionism was born out of the need for a Jewish homeland, that not all Jews were Zionists, that Orthodox Jews tend to vote Republican, while liberals Jews tend to vote Democratic, not really caring too much about Israel (which was only #4 on their list of concerns in the 2012 election). But Clark was adamant that Jews trying to take over the world are succeeding, despite Israel losing the vote in the U.N. over Palestinian statehood on November 29, 2012, by a vote of 138 to 9, with 41 abstentions. Clark sees Israel as an oppressor, not appreciating that after voluntarily withdrawing from Gaza, it was thanked with 12,000 rockets fired from there into Israel. Nor does he appreciate Israel withdrawing from the entire Sinai Peninsula in exchange for a peace treaty with Egypt, one that Egypt continues to violate by letting rockets be smuggled into Gaza from Rafah, Egypt. It seems like the more Israel offers to withdraw from, the more Clark and his friends are sure that Israel is out to conquer the world.
Clark is not the only man I've met who has significant UFO experience, but who has swallowed the Rense.Com Nazi line. I once had a matrix posted about a man that I will just call "Tweety" here. He claimed to have been abducted and tortured aboard an alien craft. He also claimed that we are living in a matrix, and that everything we see is being sent into our minds by the aliens. As with Clark, I had many arguments with Tweety about his Nazi leanings, and finally pulled the plug on his matrices on this site. Tweety did have many fascinating ideas, and some of them I've heard again from Morgan Freeman on his wormhole TV show, but I have lost too many relatives in the Holocaust to have much patience for men who doubt that it occurred, and this seems to be an idea that pops up with frequency on Rense.Com. On the day that Clark was on, I noticed that David Duke was also a speaker. This former grand wizard of the KKK maintains a highly anti-Jewish web site HERE.
The bottom line on Clark is this. A few hours before he went on Rense.Com on 11/29/2012 he wrote me that he could not get his book sold because the "Z," meaning the Zionists, were attacking his site. If he has proof of this charge, he should publish it. I'm certain that he does not. I asked him to please avoid saying anything stupid on Rense, in particular with respect to Zionists. He stayed away from what I hoped was merely compartmentalized insanity until the end of the show. Rense did not touch on it, focusing instead solely on Clark's UFO encounters, but Clark chose to end the show with the Zionist charge, and in doing to, he lost nearly all credibility here.
As for Clark's book, early in the show it was announced that it was published in October this year, then it was claimed that there are 13 chapters done, then 12 and almost 13 chapters done. By the end of the show, Rense was appealing to the audience for help in publishing the book. Rense asked if people bought what was up on Clark's site now, would they get free access to new chapters as they came on-line. Clark's answer was, "no." Not too many people, as far as I know, want to buy a book one chapter at a time. Rense didn't say it, but I could almost hear him think, "This is why people are not buying the book."
Since 2008, when Clark first contacted me after seeing me on the History Channel, I have tried hard to help him. I have not only attempted to improve his writing, but I've counseled him late into the night when he thought that he couldn't go on in life. I've played the role of marriage counselor with his betrothed love, and I had hoped to be his best man at their wedding although the marriage never went beyond an on again, off again engagement (he was with her when I wrote this paragraph, but I think she passed away later). I once sent him money to help pay his electric bill. I have, to a certain extent, tied my reputation to him, even though I knew that some of the things he claims make no sense at all. I did so because he can prove that he had the job he claimed to have, and he can also prove that he personally knew all the people that he claims to have met. I've seen his scrapbook, with all the autographs of all the astronauts that he worked with, and I've heard the former Assistant Director of the Apollo Mission vouch for him personally. I don't doubt that he was once a great man, and that he has seen spectacular things. But I also think that age (and NASA) have not been kind to him, and he needs a messenger who is not a Nazi to put his message out in a responsible fashion that doesn't combine 25% experience with 75% unwarranted speculation and racism.
On the evening of May 26, 2014 I received an e-mail from Clark telling me that he was dying. I tried calling him. He did answer the phone, but he sounded like he was indeed close to the end. He let me know that he never wanted to hurt me, apparently referring to things he said about Jews on Rense.Com on December 2, 2012 that I discuss further below under updates. That evening I asked my readers to say prayers for him, but when I spoke to him the next morning (May 27, 2014) he made clear that the Diabetes that he was dying from and giving him so much pain was to be blamed on the Zionists who had raised the rent in his mobile home park by $30 per month. He spewed so much hatred toward the Jews that I had to hang up on him. I received an e-mail from him several months later, but I didn't answer it.
JUNE 21, 2015: As mentioned abover, Clark claimed in May, 2014 that he is dying. He could not talk much, but he did claim that "they" are killing him. He didn't explain who they were then, but made clear today that it was all the fault of the Zionists. As is apparent from everything I wrote earlier about him, he has been in very poor health now for a very long time. There may be some evil secular Zionists in the world, but all true Zionists - be they Jews or religious Christians, know that Zion is in Jerusalem, that it was the capital of a Jewish State 3,000 years ago, and that every Bible in the world owned by Jews or Christians reveals that God gave the land of Israel to the Jews. Anyone who accepts that fact is both a Zionist and a believer in God. Anyone who rejects that fact is an atheist or opponent of God. As for whether or not Clark is dying, we all are on the road to that from the moment we are conceived, however on June 18, 2015 I accidenty dialed Clark when I meant to dial the next person in my planner. It was not until I hung up on what I thought was just a wrong number that I realized the dejected sounding person who answered the phone was Clark. So as of at least June 18, 2015, he remains alive.
Clark appears to be a man cursed. He is mired in pain and poverty. But this is not the fault of the Jews. His fate was dictated by his actions which were such that the Government decided to make him the poster boy for what happens to government employess who reveal facts about UFOs. This has nothing to do with Zionism. However, he would do well to read what God promised Abraham in Genesis 12:3, "And I will bless them that bless you and curse them that curses you, and in you shall all the families of the Earth be blessed."
Clark claims to have seen both an alien and an alien spacecraft in conjunction with a space shuttle. Whatever he saw, it was clearly unusual. I saw a UFO on my 10th birthday in 1957. But my sighting and the questions I ask about aliens, about the Nephilim (giants of Genesis 6:4) and about the true history of Mars do not mean that I reject God or the belief that He assigned the tiny bit of land that He did to Israel. In this sense I am a Zionist. As is quite apparent from my numerous stinging articles about President Obama, I do not like anything about him at all. But he is hardly a Zionist. In fact he appears to hate Israel. I will not accept the blame for anything he does (really, just about everything that he does) that adversely affects the United States. Yes, there are Jews who support Obama, but the religious (Orthodox) Jewish community, like me, reject just about everything he stands for. As for what is wrong with America, there has never been a Jewish President or Vice President. When a Jew (Senator Joe Lieberman) appeared to win the vice presidency in 2000, the Supreme Court squashed any attempt that he (or Al Gore) would actually get into office. If Zionists ruled the country the Court might have ruled another way. The bottom line about Zionism is this - it's not about who controls America, it's about who controls Israel. Muslims largely literally rule the world from Morroco to Indonesia, and too many are doing their best to rule the rest of the world through fear of terrorism. Zionists do not fly airliners into buildings. They just want to ensure that the next time someone wants to conduct a holocaust against the Jews, there is a small home for us to go to.
Those who are McClelland fans may be interested in articles or notes below:
December 26, 2018: Clark's estranged NASA is wrong. Read the updated version of MARS CORRECT: CRITIQUE OF ALL NASA MARS WEATHER DATA.
JANUARY 11, 2017: An Alien Virus May Explain Mass Political Stupidity
OCTOBER 18, 2015: AMERICA FALLEN - WHO IS BEHIND ITS DEMISE? This article links my research about NASA's Martian weather data problems to which NASA and Kremlin IP addresses follow my Mars research. It also discusses what I personally know about UFOs. With respect to the latter topic, Clark is mentioned. Finally it links this information to informed speculation as to why President Obama and Congress are permitting and funding Iran to construct nuclear weapons and ICBMS to destroy America. As is demonstrated on Figure 5, this article is written with the full knowledge that the NSA and other intelligence agencies are reading it and is directed with the hope that they can be convinced to actually stand for National Security rather than the security of those who would abuse or destroy us.
September 9, 2015: Update sent to me by Clark. I have, unfortunately, long been forced to report that Clark suffers from persistent anti-Semitism, and that while I have not dismissed his claim to have seen an alien craft, I think his health problems affect his judgment. For those who are his friends, or who have an interest, I am publishing an e-mail that I received from him below. By Z he means Zionists. Unfortunately I see no sign that his Zionists can block Obama's Iran nuke deal. Nor have these Zionists rushed forward to publish anything that this Zionist (me) has to say. Here now, are Clark's words today
Hi Barry: I was wondering how you were. I am dying with a slow death now.
August 14, 2015: NASA'S ACHILLES HEEL
June 21, 2015: Do the ETs Clark claimed to see have a base on Ceres?
NOVEMBER 3, 2015: Is Obama only a Kenyan-born Muslim, or a Reptilian Alien?
FEBRUARY 19, 2015: JOHN PODESTA, OBAMA, BUZZ ALDRIN AND UFO DISCLOSURE.
JUNE 21, 2015: Possible alien presence on Ceres.
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